It was a long shot coming in, but Penn's Ivy title hopes were ended by Harvard Saturday in a 37-20 Quakers loss.
The Good: 5th year senior wide receiver Ryan Calvert is continuing to make us ask why we never saw him play much with the offense before this year. He had 11 catches for 114 yards (of Penn's 195 total in the air) and two touchdowns. It was the first 10+ catch game for a Penn WR since 2007. He has a knack for coming up with the ball in tight coverage, which he repeatedly showed Saturday. QB Billy Ragone is going to miss Calvert next year — of 128 completions this season, 49 have gone to Calvert (38%).
The bad: Calvert's success was a result of the Penn running game's lack of it. The Penn rush was held to just 24 yards on the ground. Harvard's defense bottled up running back Brandon Colavita and kept the fleet-footed Billy Ragone at bay, forcing Penn to throw for yardage. That "one-dimensional" offense, as coach Al Bagnoli said after the game, would not be enough to beat Harvard.
The Ugly: Penn and Harvard played the first quarter fairly evenly, and when the Quakers took a lead at the end of the period it seemed we were in for a game. Then Harvard scored 37 unanswered points. The momentum swung in the Crimson's favor after a forced fumble on Jeff Jack, and then it was completely Harvard's after Penn botched a punt snap giving the Crimson a cheap field goal before the 2nd quarter ended. In that span of 37 points, Harvard just made it look easy, scoring on drives that rarely lasted more than 3 minutes.
Senior point guard Zack Rosen carried the Quakers to a victory in their season opener. But in a segment for Comcast SportsNet, Rosen was one-upped by a certain Penn star-turned-coach. Check out this highly entertaining video, which aired as part of CSN's "Big Man on Campus" series profiling the best players around the City:
Definitely a case of the teacher schooling the student. Looks like Pooh's still got some game.
If Ivy undefeated Harvard wins, the Crimson clinch at least a share of the Ancient Eight title. If Penn wins the Quakers move into a tie for first and will be one win away from their third-consecutive championship. The stakes are high, and so are we — above Harvard stadium — and we're bringing you the action from Boston:
In its season opener, Penn did what it was supposed to against a young and turnover-prone team — pressure the ball. The Retrievers had 20 miscues in the Quakers 59-45 win. Penn suffered some lapses of its own on both ends, which is the reason this game was not put away in the first half. A win's a win, but let's take a closer look.
The Good: Activity/effort on the defensive end and Zack Rosen the closer. Coach Allen and senior forward Rob Belcore will tell you that the defense could have been much better (and it certainly could have) but from watching the game in person, I was struck by the effort and activity on that end of the floor. UMBC is not the greatest team, so the fact the Quakers held them to 33.3 percent shooting should not be hyped up. Still, the energy and effort of the defense is something that stood out — Belcore flying around, Rosen digging in on UMBC frosh point guard Joey Getz, active hands all around.
Offensively, Rosen was the reason Penn was able to keep a comfortable cushion in the 2nd half. The senior point guard asserted himself when he needed to, and served as the team's closer for the night, scoring 16 points in the 2nd half (26 for the night on 10-for-15 shooting, 4-for-5 from distance). He made some difficult — and timely — shots on a night when Miles Cartwright and Tyler Bernardini were unable to get it going.
The Bad: Perimeter shooting, by both teams. Taking away Rosen's 10-for-15 shooting, the rest of the team shot just 30.6 percent from the field, 15.4 percent from deep (2-13). UMBC, meanwhile, was 0-11 from three and 16-for-48 overall. It wasn't so much a lack of execution for Penn. Guys like Cartwright and Bernardini had a few good looks on set plays from three, they just couldn't knock 'em down Friday night. Another bad? Penn'srebounding in the first half. Like I said, the defense was active and flying around, but Penn didn't close out some of those possessions. UMBC had 8 offensive boards in the first half (the Retrievers outrebounded Penn, 23-10 in the opening period). That can't happen going forward.
The Ugly: In a game where both teams combined to shoot 37.4 percent, there was a whole lot of ugly. But one shot from UMBC's Adrian Satchell was just downright ugly. He launched a three that literally fell a few feet from the basket — not even close. It looked like he was expecting a foul and then when it didn't come, he had nothing left on his shot. Still, that led my liveblogging partner Brian Kotloff to call it "The worst Division-I college basketball shot I've ever seen"
Penn M. Hoops beats UMBC 59-45 — Behind a 26-point performance from Zack Rosen, the Quakers opened up the season with a win on the road over Maryland-Baltimore County. It's the first time Penn has started consecutive seasons with a win since 2004-05. Monday night Penn will host Temple for its home opener at the Palestra. Check back later on The Buzz and thedp.com/sports for more from UMBC.
It's been eight long months since the college basketball season ended, but the Quakers are back on the hardcourt tonight for the start of the season at Maryland-Baltimore County. The Retrievers finished last season a 5-25, but both teams have a clean slate and a hopeful outlook for a new year.
Follow along in the liveblog below as editors Kevin Esteves and Brian Kotloff relay the action. And pay attention for a special deal from our sponsors at The Blarney Stone!
What would our collection of great moments in Penn hoops history be without a few from the magical 1979 season? Thanks to you, we've got a bunch of memories from the year when the Cinderella Quakers took it all the way to Salt Lake City for the Final Four.
Favorite Penn basketball memory? Hands down, it's the *anticipation* of Penn's appearance in the Final Four in 1979. There was a pep rally -- yeah, hard to believe today -- which filled one side of Franklin Field with more than 8,000 cheering Penn students and staff. It was something to behold. Then, Penn charted two planes for students to fly out to Salt Lake City for the game, and a plane-full of 200 excited Quaker fans shouting "Show no pity in Salt Lake City!" was equally incredible. (Even the pilot got in on leading a few cheers.) And just walking around Salt Lake City the day before the game, where packs of fans from the four schools would spot each other and shout cheers and jeers across the street at each other in friendly competition, was memorable. (Sadly, the actual game, in which Penn got drubbed by the Magic Johnson-led Michigan State Spartans, was much less memorable.)
-Eric Jacobs, DP General Manager, Engineering '80
After watching Penn upset the #1-ranked UNC Tarheels on television, I remember traveling to Greensboro, NC for the Eastern Regionals in 1979 as a young teenager. First, Tim Smith & Booney Salters (my favorites) and the rest of the #9 Quakers knocked off the fourth-seeded Syracuse Orangemen with the Louie-Bowie show (Louis Orr & Roosevelt Bouie), followed by the tenth-ranked St. John's Redmen with Reggie Carter. Two of my best memories were the small crowds at the Greensboro Coliseum because it was the year of the Atlantic "Choke" Conference when Duke & UNC were upset before the regionals and the fact that when I wanted to buy a souvenir, they didn't have anything Red & Blue. It was all blue and white because they thought we were from Penn State and they only knew about that football program.
-The Voice of Franklin Field, John Alexander, College '87
The year Penn went to the Final Four! Including beating North Carolina in North Carolina, watching Penn beat Syracuse on national television (the Quaker had a sign that said "Peel those Oranges"), riding a train back to Philadelphia on the Sunday Spring Break ended with a train full of Penn students who took the first train back after watching the Syracuse game on tv, the sign someone had at all games all year that said "Show No Pity in Salt Lake City" and then watching on tv as Penn actually did play in Salt Lake City during the Final Four, and being at the airport to welcome the team home after the tournament. It doesn't matter that they ultimately lost -- the team they lost to had Magic Johnson on it, and the runner up had Larry Bird. It was so incredibly exciting that they were there!
-Deborah Jagoda, Wharton '81
The 1979 NCAA semifinal game with Michigan State in which the Quakers lost 101-69, I believe. My dad was in the hospital and it was the last of hundreds of game we watched together either on TV or in the wonderful, ancient Palestra.
Season tip-off day has finally arrived. Beginning today, preseason predictions can be thrown out the window. All the drama will unfold on the court. So on this banner day, we offer the final installment of our positional previews by examining the men in the middle: the centers.
THE PLAYERS:
Senior Mike Howlett has been very effective when in the lineup, but his health has been a rarity over the past several years. In fact, he's played in just 41 career games, 13 more than point guard Zack Rosen started last season alone. But Howlett's physical presence inside always seems to raise the Quakers' level of play on both ends of the court, so the 6-9 big could be a wild card this season.
Sophomore Fran Dougherty: The 6-8 local product said after the Red & Blue scrimmage that he's prepared to play next to Howlett or alone in the middle. If forced to the center spot, Dougherty would be an intriguing option due to his defensive mobility and developing post game.
Sophomore Cameron Gunter: Gunter is in the same boat as Dougherty, only he's rawer and has far more natural athleticism. Plus, he remains Penn's lone shot-blocking threat, so he will surely crack the rotation at the very least.
THE MINUTES:
The distribution of playing time will depend upon Howlett's health and performance. Even if he starts, he will likely be used in spurts to maximize his effectiveness while he's out there. Dougherty should see a large chunk of minutes, while Gunter will allow the team to present a different look when needed.
THE OUTLOOK:
If the injury bug continues to plague Howlett, the Quakers could be in trouble. Both Dougherty and Gunter have slight (though improving) builds, meaning rebounding could become a killer issue minus Howlett. Conor Turley will not be around to do the dirty work, so someone will have to fill his shoes. That guy could be the unheralded Gunter, who can take the Quakers to another level if he can mine his untapped potential.
We're back for another season of This Week on 33rd Street! And this year we're actually on 33rd Street, coming (not so) live from the Palestra. This week I'm joined by my co-editor Megan Soisson as we talk about the opener tonight against UMBC and make some predictions for the upcoming season.
Megan also wants you to know that she made the bucket in the opening credits. Take a look:
We had two former Penn stars contribute their favorite hardwood moments to our collection. Andy Toole, now head coach at Robert Morris, and Mark Zoller both share stories from their time at Penn.
I have so many favoirte memories from being a basketball player at Penn it is hard to pick just one. If I was forced I to pick, aside from all the times i just enjoyed being with my teammates, I would say the Ivy Championship game against Yale in 2002. It was the first time the Ivy league had a three-way tie for the championship and we played Yale for the Championshipp at Lafayette College. It was extremely gratifying because we came off a sub par year the year before. We had a great pre conference season, going undefeated in the Big 5 as well as beating Georgia Tech and Iowa St. Then we started Ivy play and three of our first five games.
Everyone was skeptical of our chance to win the league and we rattled off 10 straight wins to finish the season including that win vs Yale. Going into the game there was just no way they were going to beat us, we had such a focus and belief in our teams ability. Koko Archibong and Ugonna Onyekwe got us off to a great start and Yale could never recover. Once again the Quakers were going to the NCAA tournament!
-Andy Toole, College '03
I have so many terrific memories going through Penn, but I would have to say my favorite memory(ies) was making the NCAA Tournament. In my opinion it is the greatest event in all of sports. The Selection Sunday festivities are unlike no other experience I've ever had, it is the culmination of all your hard work coming to fruition. It makes all the time in effort going into the season all worth it.
With tonight's tip-off at UMBC, we've published our annual Basketball Preview in today's DP. There's some exclusive content (Big 5 & Ivy League previews) in the print edition so be sure to pick it up on rack stands around campus today. Here's what's inside:
Kevin Esteves penned the cover story, The making of Jerome Allen, about the coach's various influences in a wide-ranging basketball career. From Dan Dougherty to Fran Dunphy, Larry Brown to Dusko Ivanovic, Esteves gets to the heart of what made Allen the coach he is today.
In the days leading up to Friday's Penn basketball 2011-12 season opener at UMBC, The Buzz is breaking down how the Quakers are shaping up at each position. After taking a look at the small forwards yesterday, we analyze what to expect out of their frontcourt partners.
THE PLAYERS:
Sophomore Fran Dougherty has been the most hyped player of the preseason after a summer of intense workouts. Now, his task is to back up the hype with production. The Quakers are relying on Dougherty to make a huge leap from his 2010-11 averages of 2.5 points, 2.4 rebounds and 13.6 minutes, which is perhaps why they're trying to give him an early confidence boost.
Senior Rob Belcore may stand just 6-6, but he has the build, grit, and defensive versatility to serve as an undersized '4.' Expect Jerome Allen to experiment with a small lineup early, and get used to seeing Belcore at power forward if it works.
Freshman Henry Brooks is expected to be brought along slowly, but could blossom into Penn's No. 1 option at the 4. His inside-out game makes the blue-chip recruit a dynamic offensive weapon.
Freshman Greg Louis "will be out for at least several months" after undergoing hip surgery, according to a Daily News report. If he gets healthy, he could add to the Quakers' depth as a stretch-the-floor 4 who can also bang inside.
THE MINUTES:
This is the most difficult position to nail down when it comes to minutes. Our best answer would be, 'Talk to me after Friday.' But if we had to venture a guess, we'd take the safe route and say that Dougherty will get the lion's share of the minutes playing alongside senior Mike Howlett. If Allen lacks confidence in Howlett's health or ability, look for Belcore to slide down low and Dougherty to play the middle.
THE OUTLOOK:
Jack Eggleston had this position on lockdown for the past four years. You could pencil him down for double-digit points on efficient shooting and a handful of rebounds every night, not to mention fiery leadership and hustle. The absence of Eggleston -- invaluable as a steady, stabilizing force -- could hang over this team for the entire season. Or one of these guys could emerge and bring stability to the front court. Whatever the case, it will provide one of the most intriguing stories to follow this season.
As an avid professional wrestling fan from the time I was a toddler until high school (admittedly, it still entertains me), I had a blast putting together my story on Chris Nawrocki, brother of Penn senior tight end Luke. But as hard as I tried to put his dreamlike ride to WWE reality show "Tough Enough" into words, sometimes the words don't do the reality justice. So take a look at some scenes when Chris appeared on the show, which aired in 2004.
First, here's Chris' bio segment, including snippets of the audition tape that earned him one of 75 invitations to California for tryouts:
Next, two scenes the Nawrockis will surely remember for their entire lives. Here's Chris and the other contestants getting bad-mouthed and then body-slammed by 7'1, 450-pound Paul Wight a.k.a. "The Big Show":
And here's the competition that ultimately caused Chris' elimination and a pair of broken ribs courtesy of former Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle:
Finally, here's Chris' emotional elimination from "Tough Enough":
I had season tickets all four years at Penn, but only did the Line my senior year. I joined forces with two friends from my performing arts group - The Excelano Project - and one of my friends' then girlfriends. I remember being in Van Pelt when the Line's location was announced, and bolting outside and running faster than I ever have in my life to meet my other three Line-mates. That weekend, we slept over in the Palestra. It was pretty fun. Definitely pretty cool and hip.
But the best part - my favorite part - was the next day when we watched the team scrimmage, because two of the players were also in our performing arts group. I loved not only supporting my school, but my friends. It was such a testament to the versatility, talent, and multifaceted nature of Penn students. Here were two Ivy League athletes - brilliant and gifted, both on and off the court. It was amazing to share the Line with other members of Excleano, knowing we'd be supporting Steve Danley and Ibrahim Jaaber from our seats all season, and then see them at Excelano practice later that week.
As we await this weekend’s basketball opener Friday night at UMBC, this week’s segment will turn back the clock to a dark time in Penn hoops history — the Glen Miller Era. But it didn’t start out that way, as Miller experienced some initial success before the program eventually plummeted to a low point in the beginning of the 2009-10 season.
On this day in Penn sports history …
November 10, 2006: The Glen Miller Era began in Syracuse, N.Y., when Penn took on UTEP for the first of three games in the Black Coaches Association Invitational. Before coming to Penn, Miller had first been an assistant coach at Connecticut under Jim Calhoun, and later he was the head man at Brown for seven seasons. The Quakers had gone 20-9 in 2005-06 under Fran Dunphy and were the defending Ivy League champions. The Miners also were playing their first game under a new coach, Tony Barbee, a former assistant under John Calipari at Massachusetts and Memphis.
The Quakers built up a significant lead in the first half, when an 11-0 run put them up 20-9. But turnovers quickly allowed the Miners back into the game, and before long, it was tied again at 24-24. The game went back and forth and Penn took a one-point lead into halftime, 39-38.
UTEP opened the second half scoring the first seven points and held onto the lead until late in the period, when Penn tied it at 58-58 on Mark Zoller’s three-point play. The turning point may have come, though, when senior captain Ibrahim Jaaber fouled out with only four minutes remaining.
As a result of their go-to guy being out of the game, sophomore Aron Cohen was forced to take a potential go-ahead shot as the Quakers trailed, 67-66, with under a minute left. His long three-point attempt clanged off the front of the rim. Glen Miller was not pleased with taking an ill-advised three:
“Down one, we had better get a better shot off than we did.”
Penn ultimately lost, 69-66 — in retrospect, a proper beginning to the Glen Miller Era. In the next two games of the Invitational, Penn fell to No. 20 Syracuse, 78-60, but salvaged a win against St. Francis (NY) in the final contest, 86-56. Miller would guide the Quakers to a 22-9 record overall, and 13-1 in the Ivy League — Penn’s last Ivy title.
In two-plus seasons following that though, Miller’s record was 23-43 overall, 14-14 in Ivy play. He was fired and replaced by Jerome Allen on December 14, 2009. Miller returned to his alma mater, Connecticut, last year, as Director of Basketball Administration and will return to his original role as an assistant under Jim Calhoun this season.
After sitting out Saturday's scrimmage against Carleton, guards Rob Belcore and Miles Cartwright will play in Penn's first game of the season against the University of Maryland, Baltimore County.
Both guards had been nursing ankle injuries, and their defensive presences were sorely missed in the open scrimmage.
But both said they are definitely ready to go. Although Cartwright expressed that it was taking a while to get his ankle loosened up, he looked sharp in the practice's early-going.
Belcore dealt with some excruciating migraines early last year and another ankle injury at the end of the season.
All-Ivy honors were announced today in field hockey, with two Penn players being named to the award — Alex Iqbal (Second Team) and MaryRose Croddick (Honorable Mention). Both are freshmen.
Alex Iqbal started all 17 games this season and finished tied for second on the team in goals, with five. All five goals were scored in the team's final five games, including a hat trick against Appalachian State on Oct. 16. She also added two assists and was tied for second on the team in shots, with 32.
MaryRose Croddick also started all 17 games for the Quakers this year and was a part of the improved defense that allowed 20 fewer goals this season than in 2010. Before the awards were announced, coach Colleen Fink was hopeful Croddick would be considered for Ivy Rookie of the Year.
Iqbal and Croddick are two of a class of eight total freshmen on a rebuilding Penn squad. Of the team's top five scorers this year, three were freshmen (including Iqbal) and the leading scorer, Julie Tahan, is a sophomore. The team finished the season with a 4-13 record overall, 2-5 in Ivy play, but improved greatly over last season's last place Ivy finish. The team wrapped up its season this past Friday against Princeton, who claimed its 17th Ivy title in 18 years and won its opening NCAA Tournament game against Rider, 1-0, yesterday.
In the days leading up to Friday's Penn basketball 2011-12 season opener at UMBC, the (newly redesigned) Buzz will break down how the Quakers are shaping up at each position. After taking a look at the 2-guards yesterday, we predict what to expect out of their counterparts on the wing.
THE PLAYERS:
Senior Tyler Bernardini is a real wild-card. The 6-foot-6 wing has battled injuries in recent years, but when healthy, he is the team's most potent outside shooter. If he can replicate last year's production — 12.9 points per game, which would have been much higher if not for a cold start to the season — Penn will have a reliable three-pronged offensive attack of PG Zack Rosen, SG Miles Cartwright, and Bernardini.
Senior Rob Belcore earns his minutes simply for how hard he plays and his versatility defensively. He's a bullish defender, but Penn fans would love to see him regain the shooting stroke he had as a freshman. He would prove to be a much bigger asset on the court if he could knock down that Bruce Bowen-patented corner three but he seemed to hesitate to launch the deep ones. He offers a different skillset than Bernardini, but if those two could somehow combine their respective defensive and shooting abilities, Penn would be rock-solid at the 3.
Sophomore Marin Kukoc is another wild card, simply because we have not seen much of him. He is said to have a smooth, Euro-game (thanks to his father, Toni's influence), and can shoot the ball from the outside.
THE MINUTES:
Bernardini and Belcore figure to share time at the 3 (Bernardini averaged a hefty 30.4 minutes, Belcore 22.9 last year) and will likely be interchanged when Allen wants to throw out different looks (Bernardini for the scoring punch, Belcore when he needs a stop). Belcore is also valuable because he is quick enough to defend point guards. It remains to be seen where Kukoc will come in. Allen has the luxury of going small or big with the versatile roster he now has, so Kukoc could conceivably play the 2 through the 4.
OUTLOOK:
We all know what Rosen and Cartwright can provide in the backcourt, but if Bernardini can produce like he did during that one hot streak last year (5 straight games of 17+ points) that will ease the burden of losing the scoring of Jack Eggleston (13.2 ppg). If Belcore can keep defenses more honest while he's on the offensive side of the ball, and Kukoc can mix it up and knock down shots, Penn will have a number of options at the 3.
Since my daughter Allison has submitted her memories, what kind of father would I be if I did not do the same. Back in the day, Penn not only had a nationally ranked basketball program, but the students actually called all the games on WXPN. I was one of those lucky students from 1974-1978. I came in when Penn had a great team in '74-75 with Ron Haigler, John Engles and Bob Bigelow. While the memories of that era are great, including the tragic injury of John Engles in the LaSalle game in 1975 that may have cost the Quakers a real chance at a title, the ensuing loss at the Palestra in the first round of the NCAA's against Kansas State and Chuckie Williams.
The Quakers went through a rebuilding process for the next 2 years with Keven McDonald, Stan Greene, Tom Crowley and then the great freshman class of Tony Price, Bobby Willis, Tim Smith and Matt White, but Penn lost the Ivy title to a great Princeton team with Frank Sowinski and Barnes Hafptfuhrer (now there's a real Princeton name for you!).
By 1978, it was Penn's turn again (and Penn did win 8 of 10 titles in the '70s with the 3rd overall best record in the NCAA's) and as a senior, I got to call almost all of the road basketball games. The memory that stands out is the Great Blizzard of 1978. It began on February 6 and continued for 2 days, piling up between 3 and 5 feet of snow as you went up the Northeastern coast. Penn was scheduled to play Yale and Brown that weekend, and it was iffy, as the National Guard had closed all roads north of New York. However, on Thursday, I-95 was reopened to New Haven and we were able to drive up and park in a snow drift across from Payne Whitney. I remember having an intense game of Pixie Football in the snow with the XPN and DP contingent and then Penn won fairly easily at Yale that night.
The next night was trickier....the roads still were closed but Amtrak was running. So everyone, including the team, climbed aboard a train and went up to Providence for the next game. When we got there, the team got a ride to Marvel Gym at Brown from the National Guards, but the XPN and DP guys had to walk 2 miles up the hill in the middle of the streets. I'll never forget Loren Feldman, the DP sports writer (and later editor of Philadelphia Magazine) complaining the entire time. Then Penn destroyed Brown before about 30 people. There were no trains back until the milk train at about 2 in the morning, so the players and school media hung at the central information booth, playing poker for 3 hours---Booney Salters cleaned everyone out. Great memory and great season.
Actually, Penn had more talent in '78 than the next year, when they went to the final four, and after crushing St. Bonaventure in the first round of the NCAA's (also at the Palestra), Penn lost a heartbreaker to Gene Banks, Mike Gminski and Duke ---back in Providence---after blowing an 8 point lead with 8 minutes to go. Duke went to the final game that year and it could have been us. It was, the next year, but instead of a beatable Kentucky team that won in 1978, there were a couple of guys named Bird and Magic in the way in '79.
Is Penn men's basketball flying "under the radar?"
That's what senior captain Zack Rosen says. In a video interview with Philly.com, Rosen said he thinks the team will exceed expectations this year.
"I think we have some guys this year that are going to surprise people," he said in the video, which you can watch below. "We’ve got some guys that are under the radar, have done some pretty good work in the summer, and have come back showing positive signs for this year and their development."
The Daily News also released its season preview for Penn, with this nice little soundbite from coach Jerome Allen:
"It's always about process," Allen said. "It took the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan a couple of years before they got over the hump."
And here is the DN's projected starting five. As we've discussed before, Penn will likely go small, with Fran Dougherty being the only true big man on the floor in this line-up:
F Tyler Bernardini Sr., 12.9 ppg, 3.9 rpg
F Fran Dougherty So., 2.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg
G Zack Rosen Sr., 14.3 ppg, 3.5 rpg
G Miles Cartwright So., 11.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg
G Rob Belcore Sr., 3.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg
The real question is whether this lineup can rebound. The only player in this starting five whose minutes will increase significantly is Dougherty. If he can rebound at Jack Eggleston-esque levels (8 per game last season) in the increased minutes, that will be a start, but Penn will need more out of Bernardini and Belcore.
Check out the interview with Rosen after the jump.
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