John and Andreas talk about what it's like being the gay cousin at Thanksgiving. Zoe Albano-Oritt comes on the show to discuss what it was like to be in Australia when gay marriage was passed and Nolan Hill speaks about how he incorporates queerness in his art.

Hosted by John Holmes and Andreas Pavlou. Produced by Joyce Varma and edited by John Holmes. Recorded in Wexler Studio at the Kelly Writers House. Theme music by Andrew Ellis: @andrew-dummyfresh-ellis. Podcast art by Kate Jeon.

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