John and Ian talk about their first celebrity crushes and watching porn in the high rises. They interview John's mom and discuss hair politics with Senior Roshumba Llewellyn.

Hosted by John Holmes and Ian Jeong. Produced and edited by Joyce Varma. Recorded in Wexler Studio at the Kelly Writers House. Theme music by Andrew Ellis: @andrew-dummyfresh-ellis.

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